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David Richter Talks with Leon Barnes
February 4, 2026
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In this episode of the Profit First for Real Estate Investing podcast, I sit down with Leon Barnes—real estate investor, coach, and long-time leader at Collective Genius. Leon shares his journey from sports journalism and corporate sales into building a 65+ door portfolio in Kansas—all while working full-time and growing alongside a strong investing community.
We talk about what it really takes to build wealth slowly and intentionally, the difference between chasing “door goals” and actual profit, and how Leon leaned into community and personal development as much as business strategy. This episode is a reminder that real estate isn’t a race—it’s a tool to build the life you want.
Episode Highlights
[0:00] – Leon’s journey from sports broadcasting to corporate sales to real estate investing
[3:50] – Building his first few rentals while still working full-time
[6:03] – How being bankable gave him a financial runway most new investors don’t have
[8:44] – Why he grew to 75 doors—and intentionally scaled back to 65
[10:12] – The birth of Collective Genius and how it grew into a values-driven community
[13:00] – The problem with chasing someone else’s goals
[15:22] – Short-term goals as a long-term strategy: why they matter
[18:09] – The connection between personal development and business growth
[20:41] – The importance of being intentional with your time, money, and community
[24:26] – Leon’s final thoughts on playing the long game in both business and life
1. Real estate doesn’t have to be rushed. Leon built his portfolio slowly while working full-time, proving that patience pays.
2. Being bankable opens doors. Keeping your W-2 income for a while can give you more financing options early on.
3. More doors ≠ more freedom. Scaling down can sometimes increase profitability, focus, and peace.
4. Community matters. The right peer group will challenge you, keep you grounded, and help you grow.
5. Define success on your terms. Whether it’s 10 doors or 100, know what you’re building and why.
If this episode helped you reframe your real estate goals or inspired a new path forward, please rate, follow, and review the podcast. And share it with someone who needs a reminder that slow and steady still wins.
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Unknown
Welcome to the Profit First for Real Estate Investing podcast. Every week we bring you top investors and experts sharing how they create clarity, cash flow and consistent profit. This episode is brought to you by simple CFO. Profit first. Profit always. Let's go. Hey. Hey everyone. Welcome back to the Profit First right? Podcast. Have a special guest to me, Leon Barnes, because I've gotten to know on for the past.
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Unknown
I don't know, Leon. It's probably been five years now. At this point, it feels like. Yeah, it's been a it's been a while, but I've gotten to know Leon a lot better. And Leon is someone that I respect in this space. But then he's also doing his own real estate. But then he's helping a ton of real estate investors across the markets.
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Unknown
So, Leon, thanks for being on the show today. I appreciate it, David. Five years ago, I was introduced to you at another community. We were having lunch together and they were like, hey, you need to talk to David about being in the collective genius that was, believe it or not, right here in Tampa, where I'm based five years ago.
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Unknown
That's crazy, because even, I'm part of the collective genius. And I was part of the collective just like ten years ago. Two with another company. And it's like it came full circle. And then I saw Leon. And honestly, Leon's been a great leader at this event. And if you're listening to this podcast and you're in real estate, you have probably heard of the Collective Genius, because it is.
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Unknown
It is a premier real estate investing group, community mastermind. I know that they don't love the word mastermind as much as community, because it really does. It feels like a great group of just people that want to help you get to your next level, whatever that is. So I'm excited to interview you, Leon, because I really want to dive in and be like, okay, how did you get into this?
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Unknown
Like, how did you even want to start helping? Because like, you've helped a ton of people in this space and you have your own experience. So like, let's go into that first. Did you start in real estate before you got involved with the Collective Genius? I did not, David. I was the college kid that grew up with Sports Center, and I totally wanted to be a broadcast journalism major if I didn't make the NBA first.
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Unknown
You know, I knew I was going to the NBA. David. And then I stopped growing about six, four and was slower than probably I needed to be to get in the NBA. All those things led me to a broadcast journalism career. That's what I wanted to do, is like, if I can't play the game, I want to actually call the games and be part of, professional sports teams.
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Unknown
So I did that for five and a half years before realizing, David, you're a you're a financial guy. It was going to take me a long time to get to that status where a lot of people, you know, the people that you see on national television that make really good money, the Stephen Smiths of the world and the the Sports Center anchors, it was going to take me some time there.
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Unknown
And in my 20s I didn't have that patience. And so I was told that I could, you know, do sales really well, like a lot of people tell you, hey, you should get in the sales, will. I actually took people up on that and did that for 11 years, spent 11 years in corporate advertising sales, worked my way all the way up to the regional manager positions, the executive roles, and was on a trajectory to continue to grow into VP roles and what have you, and really got burnt out on corporate America.
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Unknown
And thankfully, during that time, I had gotten to know a real estate investor like you all right in your community. I knew them through selling advertising, and I didn't really understand exactly what they were doing. I just liked his vibe and I liked what they were doing it, you know, just kind of making the community better. One house at a time, flipping houses, I mean, flipping and wholesaling and all those type of terminologies really weren't a thing.
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Unknown
You know, when I first met him in 2003, people were doing it, but it wasn't something that, you know, was at a high level where it is today. I liked it so much. I was like, you know, I could really make an impact on a business like that with my background of hiring, building teams, building culture, helping, you know, grow team, team members, that was my focus.
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Unknown
That's what I was really good at. I was a I was a very above average salesperson, but I was even better at building culture and helping employees get to where they wanted to go. Within our team structure. So I was just a natural coach, and I was like, you know, I can make a big impact on this. So that was my goodness.
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Unknown
That was now 11, 12 years ago that I got into real estate, working for someone else, running day to day operations of a flipping and rental business. Okay. That's awesome. So you got into it there and it sounds like that other the corporate skills helped you inside of the real estate company and really helped you in that space.
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Unknown
What what was the bridge from working with that person to working with where you are now, like collective choice? Was that a short process? Long process like you? It was a long process. Okay. Well, yeah, it was a long process. I will say two things here, because I know your listeners will like this when they're making that transition of working for an organization and and knowing that you want to build well through real estate.
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Unknown
Do you do want to be patient? Obviously there's a lot there's a financial podcast, obviously, for real estate investors, you're so much more bankable when you have that W-2, you know, so use that time as that side hustle to build a rental portfolio, to build active cash so you can make that jump, whether that's wholesaling hotels and fix and flip or fix and hold, what have you.
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Unknown
You know, I started doing that my first year was like, hey, can I buy any of the properties that we don't want to necessarily flip or anything I can find through referrals that, you know, don't fit our model? Absolutely. Okay. So I started growing a rental portfolio. And during that time we started coming to the Collective Genius. And I just absolutely fell in love.
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Unknown
David. Like I, I had never been in a room with multi-millionaires that were willing to sit down with me and say, hey, you know, I noticed that, you guys were struggling with the second, direct to a seller inbound strategy. You're dominating television. Why don't you just be more consistent with direct mail? And you will. Do you know you'll dominate your market?
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Unknown
You'll do 100 deals instead of 50. I was like, really? That's. You're willing to share that with me? Absolutely. So I fell in love with the group from day one. Jason and I, the founder of KG, Jason Medley, we clicked immediately, both from, you know, similar backgrounds, different parts of the country, but similar backgrounds, both from states that start with K, I'm from Kansas, he's from Kentucky.
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Unknown
Although he's not a basketball fan. He should be being from that state. But there's a lot of things that we just saw eye to eye on. And when I went out on my own, started building a rental portfolio and said, you know what? I didn't come into this to be an entrepreneur, but I found that I wanted to be and was at that point where I was ready to graduate to start building wealth for myself.
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Unknown
This opportunity with Jason, I just continued to build a relationship with him. He said, hey, I could really you can still do that, but I'd love your. The type of culture that you bring is go giving is exactly what our culture is, and I know you can make connections at a higher level when I'm trying to get out of the seat, of doing a lot of those day to day things.
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Unknown
So why don't you come over here? And here we are seven years later, I not only and, you know, still with collective genius doing this on a day to day, I still have my company in Kansas while moving my family all the way across the country and living in Tampa now. Wow. Okay, I didn't know that. So you still have stuff going on in Kansas right now I do.
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Unknown
Okay, so yes. So is that a portfolio or what do you have going on. So great question. I, I could not leave. So I worked remotely for two years for the Collective Genius when we started tears, when we started the different tears. David, so I met you right as I moved to Tampa. Okay. You might not have known that, but I had just literally moved to Tampa.
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Unknown
I think when the time frame that we met. So it was actually, it might have been four and a half years ago because it was post Covid, it was like 2021. And I could not I had no intention of moving. I was going to work remotely because that's where my business was. But after two years, I have a partner there.
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Unknown
That was my acquisition. He's been with me through all the corporate days. He's a great partner to have. And he was running day to day operations. We had a third party management company, but once we got to a certain point, I hired, a lady that work with me in the past to run our property management division.
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Unknown
So I have two full time employees still in Kansas. They run the day to day operations of our rental portfolio. We've. I think we got as high as 75 doors when the interest rates were low and we sold off a few. I think we're back down to 65 doors, but they manage those properties and day to day acquisitions, with, you know, now less than ever with me being here.
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Unknown
Yeah. So, Leon, what I'm hearing is you can still be an employee and work and still have real estate and be a real estate investor and being able to do both because it's honestly, every time I see you, it's like you're doing what you love. You love the connections, you love the people, you love pouring into them. So it's like, this is like a passion of yours, which it just comes across very clearly.
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Unknown
And that's why I love, like, telling people about collectors. You like because obviously you do pour yourself into it. But I wanted to talk about that like a lot of business owners usually want to get out of their W-2 job or real estate investors are like, want to get out of it to be full time and real estate.
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Unknown
But you've really handled both of these well. Like, do you see other people struggle with this or like what types of business, you know, like what words of wisdom would you give for someone that might be in a W-2 now and they're thinking about getting into real estate and, well, I'll say the very cliche thing that most of our parents or grandparents or some influence in your life said, do you find something that you'll love and you'll never work a day in your life?
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Unknown
And if it just happens to be in an industry that you want to do more of, obviously it's conducive to doing both, right? So for in my particular case, being around 500 plus of the top real estate investors in the country and in some overseas obviously helps me with strategy to build that company. I would also say that even if it isn't real estate specific, if it is something that you can make, you know, a good income off of, to build a strategy to leave that in the future.
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Unknown
Because, you know, the biggest thing about this is that there's no overnight successes here, David. Like, this is something that we're talking about. You know, a 11, 12 year journey here that we've gotten to this point. This wasn't the case right out of the gates. I was before doing consults and making connections for the collective genius. At 630, I was at a jobsite making sure the contractors were getting started, and then at lunch, I would go to another job site.
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Unknown
And then at that, before I went home or to a basketball practice for my kids team, I would then go see another property. I did that for five years. Oh wow. Every day I did that. So that wasn't something that, you know, I loved doing that. But that wasn't my passion. My passion was connecting one member with another, learning from each other, seeing each other grow.
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Unknown
That's when I can see that someone is I help someone's business by making a connection. My goodness, that that fills my bucket all day and it runneth over. No doubt about it. You said it. This is a passion for me. It just happens to be, around the industry. But it doesn't mean you have to be in the industry in order to do this.
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Unknown
You just have to have a plan because it's not going to happen overnight. It's something that gradually happens, but you can fully take advantage of your W-2. Banks love people with long term jobs and high income. They love lending money to people that they know are going to make enough money to pay them back. Yeah. So that that's so interesting too, because you see it out there, most people are just like, I just going to jump in.
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Unknown
Well, there are entrepreneurs, right? I'm going to jump in. I'm going to make this work. I like how you did it. It's a little bit counterculture of the typical entrepreneur. You were like, I'm building a portfolio, and I'm also going to work with something I love, you know? And like you found that and obviously it's just a perfect pairing there.
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Unknown
Can you talk about that a little bit more of like did that since you've had a W-2 has that made you more bankable like during this time and like to be able to get the loans or I don't know if you refinance properties over the years and it's been way easier. You know, like obviously having a portfolio of properties.
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Unknown
I'm just wondering that journey because it's so different than where a lot of people go wholesale flip. Maybe I'll buy rentals in the future. So a couple different things. Number one, this is not the only way I think this is not the The Mandalorian. This is not just this way is the way to go, right? There are many ways to to grow a real estate investment business.
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Unknown
This just happened to be the way that worked best for me, because I came from a corporate background, and I realized that I, that I had more tendencies of an entrepreneur than I ever knew that I had, that were buried deep down, that came up in getting into this business. Some of that has to do with this industry, especially single family is a low barrier of entry, right?
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Unknown
You you know, if you talk to the right people, you network, you can always find, you know, deals. Now a number of deals. That's that's another story. But you can always find, a few opportunities, especially if you're handy. But this particular path that I took, I realized very early on when I went to talk to the banker that was handling a lot of our the company I worked for, the banker.
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Unknown
They're in the business of making loans. They don't make money unless they make loans. And he said, Leon, have you ever thought about holding in the assets? And I said, yes. I'm not sure how I'll go about doing that. Working for a company, I don't know, not sure how I'll, you know, buy them. And he goes, well, you know, you have you know, you have the industry knowledge and you have a good paying job.
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Unknown
You know, I'll, you know, I would we our bank will lend to, you know. All right. So that started sign me conversation. Exactly. That got me into I bought my first couple. I had a friend that, let the down payment money and realized very quickly that we were going to run out of money very quickly with that money.
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Unknown
Right? Yeah, we knew it. So from that point on, I think the first three we bought with traditional down payments and then from there on out we went back strategy, every, every single property that we purchased, we bought with private money through relationships that we had made private money for the purchase price and the rehab. Once that rehab was completed, we go get an appraisal by our banker.
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Unknown
Our banker would come out and would appraise much higher than we usually would expect because the properties were done. Nice. And then we bought that strategy, rinse and repeat. And that grew the portfolio to about 75 doors. When I then realized that I had I was on this path, David, and you'll appreciate this as on this path of this arbitrary number.
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Unknown
I got to get to 100 doors, you know, beating my chest going, that's a magical number. I've got to get to this number. And I realized that to get to that number, you may have to buy some properties that don't make sense. Right. And so I really started focusing on much more. I sort of focusing on quality versus quantity of doors.
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Unknown
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00;16;57;10 - 00;17;24;19
Unknown
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Unknown
I'm scaling. And it's like, yeah, but you're killing yourself from the inside out. And it sounds like you've been very intentional with this. And like you said, I love what you said earlier. You said this is the best way for you, and this can be if you're listening, this this might be the best way for you, but you have to figure out for yourself.
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Unknown
And I will say we are. And I think the culture at KG is so great because it's people like you that get up to say, hey, you know, it's not that you do more deals, it's that you have the best business around and that you. I love what you said when I was on your podcast. You're like, scale responsibly like that.
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Unknown
You're helping people scale responsibly in their businesses where a lot of people just, like scale at all costs. So I think that's something that collective genius also brains a being a member and being in there and seeing that you've also, I feel like the last few years have brought up people that are very good business owners. They're not just doing lots of deals, but like they're good at whether it's hiring or the marketing or like the actual keeping it and the net profit.
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Unknown
So it's like you're bringing up the shining examples of good business owners as well. And I think we on that. You're also leading the charge there. You know, you and Jason making sure that you have like what you've got is a good solid business and a good solid business model that was good for you. And you know, like for Jason, what's good for him.
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Unknown
We are the group in. There's first and foremost I want to say this, just like I said earlier, my way isn't the only way. Yeah, the collective genius isn't the only community. And you said that word earlier, mastermind 100 years ago. The concept of a mastermind and bringing smart people together, was, you know, it was is so important to be around other people doing what you want to do.
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Unknown
But I think where we've taken it to the next step is it's not just smart people coming together. It's a community because it's smart people that want to come together to not only grow their business, but to also grow their personal lives, their family life. The balance that we all chase, that's not real, but we get as close to that balance as we possibly can.
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Unknown
We focus on those type of things. This is a the most non chest beating group that you'll ever be a part of. And some that might be what they're looking for. They want to be around people that ring the bell every time they score a deal. This is more about being real with yourself of what's best for you today and moving forward.
00;19;47;26 - 00;20;09;27
Unknown
Like that concept that I just mentioned to you about BR strategy, and then realizing that I was just getting to an arbitrary number is because not once, not twice, probably 15 times when I would talk to members about my business, they were interested about learning more about what I do. They would always say, well, why do you want to get to 100?
00;20;09;27 - 00;20;27;21
Unknown
They would just always question it. And I want to be around people that question me because it makes me better. Like, I can think of a conversation with Matt Saunders at a Virginia Beach. One of our members, and he said to me, like, you know, I, I think at the time he owned the roughly 50 free and clear.
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Unknown
Right? He had focused on getting to this big number. And he said, you know what? It's less of a hassle if I just own less. And but I own them out. Right? And that just always stuck with me. It took me a while to change the mind frame, but he challenged me to be better. And that's the type of community that I want to be.
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Unknown
And I always say to my sons, specifically my 13 year old right now that's, you know, one year removed from high school, pretty competitive basketball player. And I always say, get in the best rooms, you get in the room. What's for losers? I'll show you the fifth very quickly. The same thing goes for winners. You get in a room with four winners, and you will quickly elevate yourself into a winning position of that particular room.
00;21;06;02 - 00;21;37;00
Unknown
And that's that's what this community has meant to me and why I made the decision. I sound like a one of those commercial. That's why I joined the club. Right? Like this. That's why I, I've been on this side for seven years and being affiliated with the organization for 11, I will say to one of the things that's been instituted since I've been there, I really like I think it's on the second day where we get into those pods and you really go deep with people and like you said, not just on the business side, but like what's going on in your life and can we help you?
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Unknown
Like, you know, the group that I'm a part of is a lot of, like, where they might have younger kids or they might have, like, kids going into teenage years. And it's like, okay, right now, is it a struggle? There's a struggle in the marriage. Is it a struggle on, you know, like whatever it might be, family issues, whatever, and really helping people through that.
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Unknown
I've been also a little surprised of how open people have been over the years. And like, this is great. Like, now we can actually work through this stuff together. And then other people chiming in as well too, and being able to go through those things and walk through them and other people going through really hard situations or losing a loved one in like the the group rallying around them at that time and really helping it is more than just, like you said, a beat your chess club of like, yeah, let's just talk about the deals.
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Unknown
I've really loved that as part of the culture that has been instituted there as well. And just really, I really do. I look forward to that day. You know, a lot when we go deeper, there. So I just wanted to say that as a user, of the actual product as well too, and being a part of it.
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Unknown
But Leon, this has been awesome. I think you've got you have a ton of knowledge here. Like that's practical because you are actually a real estate investor, and you're a successful one in the sense that you know what you want, you know, like that's where you know what you want. You know what you can handle. You know what you can go after.
00;22;58;07 - 00;23;21;04
Unknown
What advice would you give to a real estate investor right now that's in this market and facing the ups and downs that a lot of people are. What are you telling them right at this time? Well, first of all, I would set realistic goals and not judge myself based upon what I see from others. Yes, I want to be around others that are helping me grow, right?
00;23;21;04 - 00;23;43;27
Unknown
That are thinking it's the thought leaders. When I talk to the highest level of our group, our CEO level members. These are people with $10 million businesses above. They've been in the business 20 plus years in most cases. These are thought leaders. I want to know how they think. So you want to be in the room with people that think differently than you do when it comes to scaling a business, but you have to be real with yourself and where you're at.
00;23;43;27 - 00;24;00;26
Unknown
Set realistic one, three and five year goals because a lot of times people set ten year goals. It's way too far out. Even five year are way too far out. You know, take a one year and chunk that into quarters so you can get wins and you'll look up and 11 years later you're like, I got 100 doors.
00;24;00;26 - 00;24;22;28
Unknown
I don't even know how that happened. Well, there's a gradual process, but that process begins from those early goals that you set. And the reality is, is this the only difference between where someone is today and our highest levels is just time and execution. It's in just time and execution. If you know what you want to do, you set proper goals.
00;24;23;00 - 00;24;47;15
Unknown
You will go and find those things, especially if you're working on just getting better gradually, every, every day. It's the whole reason that I coached basketball and have coached basketball for 15 years now. There's so many parallels between what you tell, a kid about being at practice, working hard and trying to get better 1% every day. That's that goes for life, that goes for business.
00;24;47;15 - 00;25;07;14
Unknown
And I see so often in this industry, especially David, I see people come in and go, oh man, that guy's not smarter than me, and he's got a thousand doors. Well, I gotta drop everything and go get a thousand doors. That's just that's not reality. And you don't know exactly how they got to that. You don't know what their financial situation.
00;25;07;14 - 00;25;35;02
Unknown
There's so many different factors run your race, but make sure that it's just not this marathon goal. It's short sprints so you can get early wins which ultimately lead to long term success. Awesome now and I love that. Don't run someone else's race. Run your own race and make sure it's a realistic race like that. You're running right now because if you haven't trained for a marathon and you try and run that marathon, good luck.
00;25;35;02 - 00;25;52;27
Unknown
You know, like, after that first mile. So this is where I think this is where it separates as well too, because I love that that's what we preach, our profit first. Like if you're going to build a business and it's going to be profitable, like make sure you're building your own business. Not not someone else's, like not someone else's dream for you.
00;25;52;27 - 00;26;07;20
Unknown
What's your dream for your business? And like, if that's you want to spend some time with your family, like spend time with your family if you want to go on these trips, if you want to do these things, if you want 100 doors, because that's something that means something to you, it's like, okay, as long as it's realistic and you can get there.
00;26;07;20 - 00;26;31;25
Unknown
But like Leon said, what's the time frame around that? Do you need that in a year? Can you realistically do it in a year without killing yourself in every relationship in your life? You know, it's like we have to set the realistic goals. That was really good. This is a lot of stuff that if you're part of collective genius that we work on all the time, that we're there, we're making sure that we're diving deep and really, like Leon said, people are not going to just let just skirt by.
00;26;31;27 - 00;26;45;16
Unknown
Like, if you've got something and you really want to put it out there for feedback, people will give you that feedback. Whether it's tough love or whether it's just like, hey man, let me talk to you. I went through this. Let me just talk to you over here about how that went and like some of the things in my life.
00;26;45;16 - 00;27;05;27
Unknown
So I think this is a great group and community for that. Leon, if people wanted to know more about KG or like because if they haven't heard of it or if they have and they just want more info, where would they go? So the first place that you can check us out is at our website, explorer kg.com. They're at explore kg.com.
00;27;05;27 - 00;27;22;20
Unknown
You'll find out all the information. If you're a full time real estate investor. We have a tier a community level for you. If you're someone that is not quite full time yet and you're looking to get to that full time, still reach out to us, we can put you in touch with some people that, can help you.
00;27;22;20 - 00;27;42;17
Unknown
David and I both know a lot of coaches that usually are that that in between a community until someone gets to that full time mark. But explore kg.com will give you everything you need. There's an application there. If you're a full time real estate investor and you want to continue to grow and scale whatever it means for you, there is a community there and you can fill out our application.
00;27;42;17 - 00;28;02;13
Unknown
And if, we get that application on this side, it makes sense. We'll have a conversation. If not, then we will push you to the direction of what you need at this given time. Cool, awesome. And then I know you also have a podcast, so if they want to hear what you're pumping out there and what you're getting out in the content, how can they figure out about your podcast as well?
00;28;02;13 - 00;28;22;06
Unknown
Yeah, we we launched this. Super excited about this. We launched this this year I've been fighting. Fighting's not the right where I've been pushing to get a podcast, for the last few years and finally got to a point where we have enough team members where I could do this more, you know, on a weekly basis. We dropped, actually, now we're at a point where we drop two pods a week.
00;28;22;06 - 00;28;48;05
Unknown
In fact, recently dropped that great episode with Mr. David Richter here. That one just dropped a few weeks ago. If you want to go back and watch any of those, you can find those at the podcast.com we started that is in March. We have dropped now two episodes a week since then. One is from our events. So you hear our members speaking on the topics that they're presenting on and what the community's meant to them.
00;28;48;08 - 00;29;14;14
Unknown
And then the other on Tuesdays. These are long form journeys, so especially if you're at a point where you're like, man, I'm really struggling. I need to hear where someone was in a year or two or where someone was year five. We have some of our highest and best long term. I mean, people that have been with KG for a very long time that are on those podcasts, and I can tell you it's my favorite thing to do every single week to have a conversation with members like yourself.
00;29;14;14 - 00;29;37;29
Unknown
David, you have an interesting story and it needs to be told. And that's what we do on the Collective Genius podcast. Awesome. So that's how you can get more content too, because sometimes you want to date before you marry, and this is great places to get that content and to understand what's going on there. And I will say that this is a great community, if especially if you're wanting to like I love what's open says scale responsibly.
00;29;37;29 - 00;29;58;13
Unknown
If you really want to scale the business. This is a great group that has, for all the different aspects of business, for all the different departments, all the different levels. I mean, there's something for you there, especially if you're in the real estate investing world. It's been a great journey on my end, which I've got to see it as a real estate investor and now as simple CFO, getting to see it from both sides.
00;29;58;13 - 00;30;12;21
Unknown
It's like, this is a great place, no matter where you are on that journey, to help you take it to that next level and to help you get to where you really want to go, and having people hold you accountable on the way as well. So we are this was awesome. I really appreciate everything you've done here.
00;30;12;21 - 00;30;32;02
Unknown
The two websites again, I'm just going to throw them out there, explore cg.com and then the CG podcast.com. So if you want to go to one of those two sites, depending on what content you want or if you want to see if it's the right fit. Also, if you're listening to this podcast and you're like, okay, I'm making money, but I have no idea where it's going, I always throw this out there.
00;30;32;02 - 00;30;53;05
Unknown
This is where you could go to simple cfo.com. You can go there if that. If we can help you, make sure you know where your money's going. I will say I love what Jason says. Making money is a skill set. Keeping it is a discipline. And I took that right from Jason Medley and that's where we help you keep more of it and help you install systems, because discipline is really about systems.
00;30;53;05 - 00;31;14;02
Unknown
And what do you have that's a habit that you do every single day, or every single part of your business and every single part of your deal. That's what we help you with on the money side. We on again, thank you so much for what you provided here and for the different links and getting people to content. And honestly sharing your journey and really about helping people understand, no matter where they are, to be on their own path.
00;31;14;04 - 00;31;31;05
Unknown
Thank you so much, Leanne. David, I appreciate you having me. I also appreciate just shout out to you for all the members, all the real estate investors in our community that are where they are because of your financial help and advice and mentorship. Thank you for all that you do with within our community. I appreciate your friendship.
00;31;31;08 - 00;31;44;10
Unknown
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